Inside Rehabilitation Counseling
Inside Rehabilitation Counseling is a new podcast from The Commission on Rehabilitation Counselor Certification (CRCC) designed to share conversations and insight from leaders in the field of rehabilitation counseling. Listen, learn, and enjoy as CRCC Executive Director Pam Shlemon speaks with educators, practitioners, and emerging professionals in the field.
Find a list of recent releases and full transcripts of every month’s episode below.

Recent Episodes
Episode One - A Conversation with Dr. Susan Sherman, PhD, CRC, LCMHC, LPC, CPM
On this episode, Pam speaks with Dr. Susan Sherman about her career as a CRC, including time spent as Assistant Director of Georgia’s State VR program and as an educator and Program Director at East Carolina University.
Episode One Transcript
Episode Two - A Conversation with Kyle Walker, MRC, CRC, CRL, CPM & Russ Thelin, M.S., LVRC, CRC, CRL
In the next episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, Kyle Walker & Russ Thelin speak about the National Training Center for Transformational Rehabilitation Leadership Program (TRL).
Episode Two TranscriptEpisode Three - A Conversation with Dr. James McNeil, PhD, CRC
In this episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, Dr. James McNeil puts it plainly: “wherever people with disabilities are, that’s where CRCs need to be.” Hear some of Dr. McNeil’s insights into his time in the private sector and how CRCs can become “pioneers of the profession” to pave new career paths.
Episode Three TranscriptEpisode Four - A Conversation with Dr. Kate Kline, PhD, CRC, LPC
On this episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, Dr. Kline explains why she introduces herself as a “counselor, but mainly a servant.” Tune in to the full episode next week as Dr. Kline explains her background, shares insights on virtual counseling, and the ways in which competitive hiring practices are shifting where CRCs work.
Episode Four TranscriptEpisode Five - Working as a CRC at Disney World with Melannie Rodriguez, MHS, CRC
The Walt Disney Company, has long been a case study for exceptional return-to-work procedures thanks to their Transitional Duty Program. Melannie Rodriguez, Senior Vocational Rehabilitation Specialist for the Walt Disney Company, is a CRC who just recently celebrated her 23rd anniversary in Orlando at Walt Disney World.
Episode Five Transcript
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